The following is an excerpt from a transcribed interview with the late Dr. Tom Horn, recorded March 27-28, 2023. The full two-part interview can be heard here.
Larry Spargimino:
Many believe that our nation and world are headed in the wrong direction. Is it accidental or is there a secret destiny of America that has already been determined and we may ask, determined by whom? In 2005 at his second inaugural address, U.S. President George W. Bush said, “When our founders declared a new order of the ages, they were acting on an ancient plan that is meant to be fulfilled.”
Tom, you say that America is racing toward a secret destiny as defined by occultists and that this is also biblically prophetic. What do you mean by that?
Dr. Tom Horn:
You mentioned just how George Bush had referred to this ancient plan that is meant to be fulfilled, but in more recent years, don’t forget it was Barack Obama who after designating America no longer a Christian nation, which he declared just before his election in 2008. In the lead-up to his inauguration, he said, “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” That’s a bold statement. And then his wife Michelle came along and echoed those sentiments saying, “We’re going to have to change our traditions, our history. We’re going to have to move into a different place as a nation.” So, what I say in this presentation is that this international and intentional redefining of the nation in an attempt at changing the course of the United States was partly what Donald Trump was determined to stop and why in his State of the Union address in February of 2019, he declared that as long as he was the president, America will never be a socialist country.
So, it’s my opinion that before and after the presidency of Donald Trump, the United States was and now is again on an intentional trajectory to fulfill what famous Freemason Manly P. Hall described as the secret destiny of America, which by the way, includes future national and global subservience to the god of Freemasonry, which is a deity that most Americans wouldn’t even imagine when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance to one nation under God. And let me jump in here quickly and add something. The idea by that the United States was established as a monotheistic Christian nation by those who designed Washington, D.C., the Great Seal of the United States, and so on, and that the god referred to on the American currency is a Judeo-Christian one, is actually a puzzling conclusion when reflected against the secret societies, the mystery religions, the deistic beliefs of so many of the founding fathers.
These comments that you read through the official founding documents about a supreme architect, well that’s deism, a Freemasonry. They talk about the supreme judge of the world and the divine providence notations that are in the Declaration of Independence and so on. And then you look at the symbolism on the Great Seal, you look at the symbolism, the countless pagan icons that dominate the symbols, statues, buildings, all the seals that are carefully drafted under official government auspices. In fact, the Great Seal itself of the United States, Manly Hall rightly called that the signature of that exalted body of Masons who designed America “for a peculiar and particular purpose.”
And so, you look at the seal because he says this is the signature of the Masons, and you find this fascinating symbolism forecasting anything but Christianity. As a matter of fact, and many may not know this, when the Christians in the 1800s argued before the government that a hypothetical annihilation of the United States would lead to antiquaries of succeeding centuries, that’s their key phrase, concluding that America had been a heathen nation based on the symbolism of the Great Seal. Congress was pushed back then to create something that would reflect the Christian faith of so many of its citizens. President and Freemason Theodore Roosevelt was strongly opposed to that idea, but other Masons talked about and wrote about how they were not as frustrated with the plan because, given the ambivalence of the term god and the axiom that was interpreted within the context of the Great Seal symbolism, nothing there would infer a biblical Christian God.
And so, they didn’t see it as a conflict with their mystery beliefs. And so, the slogan In God We Trust, whoever you believe that is, was accommodated by Masons and other Illuminati. And so, it was approved as the official U.S. motto. So, what I go into is how unknown to most Americans and many average Christians too, the Great Seal’s mottos and symbolism relate to the secret destiny of America that Hall and other Masons spoke of. Why? Because it features the things that are important to them, both the gods Osiris and Apollo specifically. Yet as one, Osiris is the dominant theme of the Egyptian symbols, his resurrection and return. While the mottos of the Seal point directly to Apollo and the eagle, a pagan emblem of Jupiter, to Apollo’s father and to his secret plan for the nation as such.
For instance, the motto Annuit coeptis is from Virgil’s Aeneid in which Ascanius the son of Aeneas from Concord, Troy praised to Apollo’s father Jupiter or Zeus. Charles Thompson, the designer of the Great Seal’s final version, he condensed line 625 of Book IX of Virgil’s Aeneid which reads “Jupiter omnipotens, audacibus adnue coeptis or in other words, all-powerful Jupiter favors our daring undertaking. He condensed that to Annuit coeptis, and he approves our undertaking. While the phrase Novus ordo seclorum or a new order of the ages which you briefly referred to at the start of this program, that was adapted in 1782 from inspiration that Thompson found in a prophetic line in Virgil’s Eclogue 4, which reads Magnus ab anacor Mascato Ordo from line five. The interpretation of the original Latin is, and the majestic role of circling centuries begins anew, pointing towards a coming new world order.
But what’s more important for Christians is that that phrase is taken directly from the Cumean Sibyl who was a pagan prophetess of the god Apollo identified in the Bible as a demonic deceiver, and it involves specifically the future birth of a divine son, spawned of “a new breed of men sent down from heaven” when he receives the “life of gods and sees heroes with gods co-mingling.” Sounds very much like what the Watchers did with the creation of the Nephilim. According to that prophecy, this is Apollo, the son of Jupiter or Zeus, who returns to the earth through mystical life given to him by the gods when the deity Saturn or Jupiter returns to reign over the earth in a new golden pagan age or a new world order. So according to Virgil in the Cumean Sibyl whose prophecy formed the Novus ordo seclorum on the Great Seal of the United States, the new world order or the secret destiny of America begins during a time of chaos when the earth and the oceans are tottering.
So, in other words, a time like today, and that is the time when the son of promise arrives on earth, Apollo incarnate, a pagan savior, born of a new breed of men sent down from heaven when heroes and gods are blended together. I mentioned that this sounds very similar to what the Watchers did during the creation of Genesis 6 giants, but it’s also why many people believe that the antichrist will represent the return of the Nephilim. To understand why such a fanciful prophecy about Apollo, the son of Jupiter returning to earth should be important to the listeners, in ancient literature, Jupiter was the Roman replacement of Yahweh as the greatest of the gods. He was a counter Yahweh. His son Apollo is the replacement of Jesus, a counter-Jesus. It is this Apollo that comes to rule the final new world order when justice returns, this is from the Cumae’s prophecy, justice returns old Saturn’s reign.
The ancient goddess Justice should intrigue people right now with what’s going on in Washington D.C., the deep state, the federal intrusions into our lives, and the bureaucracy, because the ancient goddess Justice who she says is going to establish the rule of Apollo on earth. This is the goddess Justice who returns Satan’s reign… I was trying to think of the name. Saturnia Regna or the pagan golden age. Now that was known to the Egyptians as Ma’at she was and to the Greeks as Themis. While to the Romans she was called Lustitia, but it doesn’t matter. Statues or reliefs of her adorn thousands of government buildings and courts around the world, especially in Washington D.C. because they are familiar with Lady Justice. Blindfolded holding scales and a sword, she represents the enforcement of secular law and is according to the civil’s conjure, the authority that is going to require global compliance to the zenith of Satan’s dominion concurrent with the coming of Apollo.
And what’s more, the Bible accurately concerns this subject and it’s alarming, including the idea that pagan justice is going to require surrender to a satanic system in a final world order under the rule of Jupiter’s son. In the New Testament, the identity of the god Apollo is repeated, coded in the Great Seal of the United States as a Masonic Messiah who returns to rule the earth. The Bible names the same spirit verified by the same name that will inhabit the political leader of the end times new world order. So, in other words, according to key Bible prophecies, the antichrist will be the offspring, the incarnation of the ancient spirit of Apollo. Where do I see that? An example is 2 Thessalonians 2:3. “Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come except there comes a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition” and the Greek term of perdition is apoleia, Apollo.
Revelation 17:8 says concerning the antichrist and Apollo it says, “The beast that thou sawest was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit and go into perdition.” Once again, apoleia, Apollo. So, among other things, this means that the Great Seal of the United States is a prophecy hidden in plain sight by the founding fathers for more than 200 years, foretelling the return of the terrifying demonic god who seizes control of birth in a new order of the ages and that supernatural entity was known and feared in ancient times by different names including Apollo and Osiris and even further back as Nimrod, who Masons consider to be the father of their institution.
… Fast forward to today and the beat kind of goes on, the election of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the surreal illicit invocation to dark supernaturalism tied to those governing entities intent on fulfilling as Bush prophesied, the ancient conspiracy from the Great Seal of the United States. Right on cue we saw Democrat representative Emmanuel Cleaver offering the congressional prayer opening up the 117th Congress in “the name of the monotheistic god, Brahma and god known by many names by many different faiths.” Setting aside the numerous incorrect assumptions that Cleaver had made involving Brahma, the entreaty to such a Hindu god was highly appropriate given that Vice President Kamala Harris’s name also invokes deities.
On Friday, October 20, 2023, Tom Horn entered into his eternal reward and into the arms of Jesus after a lifetime of ministry and service.
A true friend to Southwest Radio Ministries, Tom will be deeply missed. Our sincerest condolences to the Horn family.
